Pit Poll: Do You Like Your Men Stinky?

April 30, 2012
Pits

I have a friend who yells at me every time he smells me. He prefers I let my natural scent run free instead of wearing a scented deodorant. The problem is, I get pretty darn stinky when I don't wear it. But I get where he's coming from, as I too enjoy the nice natural scent of man. Apparently the straight world is getting in on the pheromone fun too. So let's open up the discussion, do you prefer your men fragrance free or like them synthetically scented?

I will say one thing, when it comes to licking pits, freshly washed is the only way to go. Whether it's deodorant in your mouth or the stank that sticks to your tongue, it makes for a mouthful of yuck.

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Wash--whether a shower or a full bath, WITH SOAP. Ivory is fine. Just wash.

Too many (gay) men, so preoccupied with some notion of "being masculine", create and deify fantasy-illusions regarding human odor. TO ME, the idea of a "clean natural male smell" is oxymoronic. An unwashed person STINKS--and a stink is never clean.

There is a fine line between HOT and foul. I prefer a man to smell like a MAN. I don't want them to smell like a woman with colognes and deodorants.

I just love a MUSKY HARD WORKING MAN HERE all natural works for me dont use deodorant or like men that do we are men let,s be men...

I know I have to use deodorant or I stink. I sweat a lot and even the fresh sweat smells terrible when I don't use a deo roller.

Body odor IS a man-smell.
One thing about language is that a lot of guys are assuming that "stinky" means something other than "I-can-smell-you," without asking "How far away is that guy standing from you that you can smell them?" The flight attendant points out people he can smell from a foot away (maybe less). That's pretty strong, I'll admit, but not all musky scents are the same. Some are unpleasant (I'll avoid the word "rank," as the dissenters on here seem to be saying ANY scent that comes "at" them is rank, so I won't even bother, thru a forum to guess what "rank" is to them. I've smelled rank and it's not for me, so my "stinky" does not include "rank," either. But it's certainly not "freshly showered" either, which is just someone who prefers the smell of soap to the smell of the man himself). Other scents, that don't kick you in the nose, can be quite pleasant, like a light, but distinctly sweaty smell. However, on a plane, I'd imagine a scent intensifies, especially since the airlines put you in a 75 degree tube for 20 minutes before they even turn on the air vents. No wonder the flight attendant sees it that way! I'm a passenger, and I see it the same. But I still prefer to smell my dinner (I mean, my sex dinner) to having it come wrapped in plastic or soap, devoid of the way nature delivered it.

The point of this is: On a written forum, we use language differently. Some guys say they love to kiss, but their kiss is as passionate as a prune. Mouth closed, lips pursued and you can't even get your tongue into their mouth. But, TO THEM, that's "love to kiss." Others would say that's the same kiss you get from your maiden aunt, and that ain't even close to "love to kiss". So, one man's passion is another man's poison. We don't truly know (except those of us who say "musky" is GREAT, and even that's a matter of: "Is musky for you a '6 or a 9'" but at LEAST we know we want to be able to inhale the guy's scent in without a bloodhound finding it for us) what a written word means exactly, as language can be pretty confusing. Even the same word doesn't mean the same thing to two different people. "Funky" for example: one person might say "Ugh! I hate funky. It smells awful." And the other person looks at them and says, "What? Fool, what have you been smoking? Funky means, gettin' loose on the dance floor and lettin' it all hang out." So, language on a forum? We can hope for the best, but maybe we're mixing metaphors here.
For the soap and shower crowd, which I'm obviously not a member of, I think they might actually accept a guy who's at the end of the workday as clean enough for them, but they're less detailed (and more restrained even in their written descriptions - just go back and read them: no exclamation points, no exuberance [not picking on you clean-scent guys, just pointing out something about how you're expressing it: not the same gusto level as the "I-love-stinky" crowd] so I could be wrong. In contrast, the I-love-stinky guys (count me in!) are full of gusto, hee-HAW! and sound like a Texan out having fun when they make their point for the "I've-had-a-long-day-and-working-on-that-construction-site-in-110-degree-humid-weather-iand-MAN-I-sure-as-hell-STINK!!!! (Bring him to me!!!!)

I don't think I'd like the way a cowboy from 1865 would smell: THAT would be rank, way past my damn-your-scent-is-making-my-knees-buckle-level. I want a guy who's about the strength of say, a fragrant rose (with a different scent, of course) or even a stargazer or a tuberose (which has a heavy, almost opium-like fragrance). I guess what I'm saying is some of us like a scent that is light, like lemon (which is more a "nose"-oriented smell and I'd even include "freshly showered ones in that, since they want a scent: soap) than a stargazer flower (a member of the lily family) which is infinitely more of a deeper smell, which would go down into the lungs and chest (like mothballs, but much, much nicer! [And who sniffs mothballs, I say. But hey, some people doubtless find that fun, too!]).

I don't necessarily want to get a strong smell from a a guy 3 feet away, either, but if I can catch a whiff (just a whiff) of him 3 feet away , well, that MIGHT be my thing. And even then, it would have to be a nice, light scent (fragrant rose here in contrast to a tuberose. A tuberose is heavy enough that a guy with that heavy a scent from 3 feet away...well, some guys like it heavier than I do. And I applaud them for that!). And, by the way, you can smell cologne 10 feet away - or more. If you really are THAT averse to the smell of man, well...you won't desire me and I SURE won't desire you, either. Cologne is completely and totally OUT: don't even come near me (for an erotic encounter) if you want to smell like aunt Bertha or uncle Bert. Otherwise, at a wedding, fine. Work? Limit the cologne. It's not the place for it unless it's very, VERY light (and many corporations put out memos about wearing cologne, so, for our less-earthy brothers, cologne's not a universally loved scent either) and doesn't affect those with allergies (which ironically, a slightly musky guy's scent is NOT going to trigger. Nature has a sense of humour, I gotta say). So, even socially "acceptable" scents are not socially acceptable everywhere. And while I'm at it, I don't know anyone who wants a nose full of cologne on a plane any more than they want a stinky guy (I could handle it, but I understand the Fabreeze crowd on this one). So it's a draw on a plane. No stink - but no cologne either (and remember, stink doesn't activate allergies. Cologne does).

Still, it's a language barrier in here and unless we were face to face, we don't have a clue as to what someone means by "clean smell" although I'm pretty sure "freshly-showered" is pretty clear.
I will say that if "freshly showered" skin smells NICE, that's a scent, too. If it smells like soap, well just say you prefer the smell of Dial soap and not the actual smell of the guy himself, which, to me, seems like a rejection of another kind: the kind that says, "I don't care how nice you smell naturally, I don't want to even think of a man HAVING a smell. Ugh. Gross. Go take a shower." No offense, but it sounds like what so many women say to their husbands. Oh WAIT, I just remembered: A study some researchers did on pheromones found that women actually LIKE a sweat-stained tee shirt more than a clean one. So, I guess they like a slightly "stinky" guy, too. Yeah, NOW I can relate to women! (And that's a joke: I was married once, so I relate to women just fine.) But who knew they'd (women) respond to a sweaty tee shirt more than a clean one and more than (some) gay guys themselves. Ironic as hell, isn't it?? Men who "like" men don't like their natural smell,and straight women, do. Real life is really weird sometimes. Know that???? I think I'm gonna call up one of my female pals right now and say, "Let's go sniffing guys together tonight whattya say?!!" Damn! NOW I know how to find a sniffin' buddy. Suddenly, 52% of the population sounds like they can be a lot more fun than before I wrote this, and they can't be wrong if they like stinky guys, now can they?

Seems like all the bases are covered here. give me some natural smell from a good clean man. rinse off all the soap and use something like Ivory that rinses clean. I don't mind a man that has a a little honest sweat on him either. Deoderants taste like battery acid to me. Smells good but not a big turn on for a tongue bath. Cologne is ok but only in moderation. I prefer a man that is all natural. Any idea when this shaving epidemic will stop! Lord!! Men are supposed to have hair on their bodies. Some more than others. I love my man floss!!!!!!!! Y'all take good care.

A man with cologne on makes me ill. He smells of chemicals that are produced along the tollways of New Jersey! The chemical plants there, make most of the artificial smells and tastes we have come to know. We have been taught that a mans smell means he is dirty. Its so not true, it is our signature, our uniqueness, like our fingerprints. It is what attracts us to each other. As young boys, we would sweat, but never really had an odor. It was only through puberty that we acquired our scent. Many of the musky scents in cologne are derived from animal gland secretions. Its what attracts other animals. if you must wear deodorant, use unscented, and never any cologne...

Personally, I use all natural, unscented products: soap, lotion, deodorant -- and love a man who does the same. I too, love the natural scent of a clean man. I dislike strong colognes and fragrances, just as much as I would dislike a man with a strong body odor. But give me a nice, clean, natural man anytime.

The stink thing does not sound very kosher for sure but then again I like ham despite the cultural stigma of a ham sandwich in some circles. Dont go to town with the stink or a law officer might hose the smell down and think there is something go around that affects cognitive function.

thers nothing better then the smell of the true man. I like it

to all those that love DEOdorant I try when I work to wear TOM's of Maine or ArmorHammer's chemical free stuff without scent or a very neutral clean scent. I am told that it does not leave a bitter aftertaste if your buddy loves arm pit musk. I am nto sure if diet plays a roll excessive onion garlic ... curry can sweat out of your pores? I myself preferr the clean showered ode du Homme or fresh sweat after a sauna or good run on a hot day. or sweaty hot midnight summer sex. I do have a few freinds that love the smell of the men's gym locker room. or smell of a marathon orgy's bed sheet 3 days old. or sweaty old sneakers... that is harch but as one guy quoted 'whatever makes your nipples hard'

not into the unbathed. in the middle ages one only bathed once or twice a year. tooo unhealthy to get wet and cold in those days without central heating.

or if you ever talked with submarine crews, explorer, astronauts, solo ocean sailors you might also step back when interviewing them just off the boat or out of the capsul. I recently the crew of the international space station were interviewed on a Science Channel special. this is a problem with living in such close quarters. I was part of a trans alantic race crew and we only had time for washing with towelettes the face pit and crotch. it was not pretty at the finsh line...

that fury pit is driving me wild. however, if it has a bad odor, it will drive me away.

RobHearts...love to partake of your fury pits...

clean but some sweat is ok, but stink is just not cool

And I thought I was the only one who.got off.on licking a.mans hairy pit...hmmm

I love the natural smell of a man and a little musky scent turns me on...be it in the pits or crotch. I'm not opposed to cologne...wear it daily at work but only a spritz. I don't like deodorants....I love to lick pits and that's a 'no can do' if my partner is wearing deodorant.

love sweaty pits, no eoderant

Although I don't dig someone who doesn't like to shower, I have to admit, I do get extremely turned on by a man who is fresh off the farm working, a man fresh from his job on a construction site, or a young man who's been out skating all day. I'm like walk in the door, take off your clothes, and lay back and enjoy my service of appreciation of your hard days work. Since I was a little boy, watching the men drive by on the tractors, 4 wheelers, dirtbikes, and big trucks would make me go and find a place to rub one out fantasizing of them rimming me, then fucking me till my tears of joy would flow like rain to the floor. Still to this day, my LOVE for masculinity haunts my dreams at night til I wake to wet underwear.... No I don't want o lick the armpit unless it's freshly washed. I do love getting my mouth stuffed with a large white or latino cock.... Sit on my face daddy..... Stuff me hard....

rank ripe dripping man stink!
MY 2 CENTS====> & so should the rest of Him
=;{o> WD R

This all depends on the guy involved.

I have been dating a guy who smells good ANYTIME... usually he has a bit of AXE body spray on, and smells nice... not too much scent. But when he comes by after the gym and not showering yet, he still smells really good!

This has not been the case all the time, some guys get 'ripe' easier than others.

Fresh sweat is much nicer than stale sweat built up all day.

Well, I don't like the smell of cologne OR deodorant.
I prefer "natural", clean man sweat. It is very sexy.

I do NOT like the smell of a man who has not showered in a couple of days.

I used to LOVE to sniff my lover's T-shirts after he worked all day and he was in the shower. (we would also lick each others armpits, but I was so turned on by HIS natural man sweat, I would smell his t-shirts...they were not gross in anyway).

I agree with you, xxl9inches...our own body odor does get us laid...because it is natural...not like b.o. for gosh sakes, but nice, clean MAN SWEAT!

I have had some men tell me (if we happened to be sitting side by side at some bar) that they could smell and LOVED my testosterone! So, they called it that. Works for me too!

I am VERY oral...love to eat a nice clean ass, suck cock and swallow man cum, but one thing that really turns me of is smelling a LICKING a man's hairy armpits....sooooo sexy!

sperman8r

One of the earlier posts had it right. It's very hard to use language to describe smell.

When I'm close enough to kiss you, I want to smell you and not product of any sort. I sometimes refer to it as musky not homeless. Really fires up my jets.

Personally, I shower every day with Dial bar soap. It seems to rinse off fine that I don't notice a soap smell on myself. Shower gel seems to linger. I also will jump in the shower after the gym. And, if I check a short while later, my pits smell like me. No deodorant.

I'll add that I also like to shower if I've been in a pool, used sunscreen or bug repellant and so on. It's not just a question of cologne or deodorant. It's products of any sort.

Maybe that's a good way to put it. I like us both to shower daily, but want you to smell like you and me to smell like me.

KC

Hmmm. Natural scent or fresh scent. I feel that most men you meet will need some kind of fresh scent. At least a nice fresh shower scent. Now I have had a hand full of men that to me smelled good, no make that hot. Some men smell wonderful when they come in from playing ball or some other out door activity. Nothing beats that musky smell of a good man. Some men have that wonderful musky smell that drives me crazy while others smell good with a nice fresh scent.
So with me it can be ether or. Depending on your scent for me.

I love a man fresh sweat, especially from hairy armpits. Nothing beats a male body smell, no deo after shave or what so ever. I just can't understand why a man shave his armpits ....... or pubic hair. Body hair & odor, that counts. When it comes to natural, I also love a smooth man's chest. But not shaven .........

i love the natural aroma derived from a guy that hasn't washed his pubic area for a little while! (maybe 2to3days,as long as it's not to funky!). it's a real turn on for me when i'm going down on my guy and i get a whiff of the natural aroma! i really get aroused by it. and also when i find aguy who is very verbal,and let's me know how much he is enjoying it! so much for all the soap colonge business! huh?. i just want to add we all have our differant things that turn us on. and that is perfectly ok as long as both parties approve!. i'm really into body worship! and i always try and leave the door opened and costantly opened to new ideas. so for those of you who are viewing thisthis please do not hesitate in contacting me. get me while i'm hot!

Ann Landers said it best "Cologne should be Discovered, not Announced"!

Deodorant is a waste of money. Since me and most of my buds work in construction we usually have sweatty pits, thats ok cause hard workin dirty men turn me on. But when we get home a nice cool shower (no soap) cleans us up a bit to .where we just have that musky man odor that bones us up.

It is a good thing for guys to not stink because its also about what could transfer to the other guy without his knowledge after a guy drinks or smokes something and then forgets that it is not a nice thing to pass unknown elements on to the visitors who pass through like a line of people in a bus station heading for the bus.

for me i like a fresh smeel coming out the shower, i will your armpits for hours, but no stinky one.

When I tell guys that I have a pit fetish......and I do believe it is a fetish.....it is hard to explain. I do not like the smell of deodorant. I also do not like the smell of a sweaty pit. It is that natural musty man smell that drives me completely wild. And i mean WILD.

Shower for 2 ...........problem solved :)

I can't stand stinky. On the other hand, deodorant is not condusive to an arm pit tongue bath either. Freshly showered pits are the best. I also don't like really hairy pits. They don't have to be shaved but kept trimmed is much nicer.

Rob:

Thank you for raising this issue but I'm afraid you framed the topic incorrectly in your opening statement. How did you end up equating deodorant with cologne?

The last time I checked, the vast majority of deodorants on the market were completely fragrance-free. I certainly don't wear cologne but I definitely use deodorant, one that doesn't smell at all. I'm amazed that this subject now seems to be pervasive in many profiles on gay websites (including DaddyHunt), and it doesn't make any sense. How did this get to be an either/or consideration of smelling like body odor or smelling like perfume? YOU DON'T NEED TO SMELL LIKE EITHER ONE OF THEM. Mixing this up with some body odor fetish is an entirely different can of worms. That spectrum of sexual expression has nothing to do with social norms of avoiding offensive body odor in day-to-day life.

As a business professional, would anyone honestly show up at work smelling like body odor? I work for an employer with an employee manual that requires the use of deodorant. Many companies do. The customers aren't interested in your smell. For that matter, I'd have to spend half my income on dry cleaning bills if I wore my a suit without using deodorant.

This whole topic cropped up a couple of years ago on gay websites (D.H. and its competitors) and I firmly believe it has everything to do with the pervasive gay paranoia about masculinity. The equation is very simple.....women wear perfume....and men who wear anything that smells like perfume are therefore not masculine. This got twisted into the false issue that anyone who wears deodorant smells like perfume.

The advent of these online discussions about not using deodorant happened around the same time as this endless flap about "winks." You know the story (on another well-known gay website), "Real men don't wink!" Winking is perceived as girlie, and therefore offends the fragile masculinity of self-loathing gay men. So what started out as a "wink" on one website became a "grope" on another. More butch.....get it?????? It's the same lack of awareness from these people who write their online profile as a contest to see how many times they can use the word "masculine" in a sentence. In the process, they only manage to reveal how insecure they are about themselves.

Over 30 years after Stonewall, haven't we evolved somewhat beyond this? DEODORANT DISCUSSIONS? Is there any hope for gay people?

Action:
What gave YOU the idea that this is about deodorant??? It's about an erotic experience: does it turn a guy on if a guy smells a certain way. Some guys prefer Irish Spring to the scent of a guy who's just come off the football field.
And I think you've been missing a few articles about this in the straight press, so I think you can stop asking if there's 'any hope for gay people'. There was a study a year or two ago that asked women to smell two men's shirts: one was clean, one had body odor (dried) on it. The women chose the shirt that smelled.

Given all the sex on tv today, I'm not surprised to see the subject come up again and again, but how you turned it into some sort of "oh-dear-is-THIS-what-we've-come-to" thing is missing the boat. Unless that is, you think sex has outgrown its day, and from what I see, we're more sex-obsessed than ever.
And nobody even mentioned showing up a work with body odor (at least, that wasn't the original question in the post). I think most of us know we'll be surrounded by others. However, lets suppose we work in a garage. I doubt very many guys would turn to the next mechanic, amidst gas fumes and oil, and say, "Wow, man, you stink." Not everyone works in an office, Action.
It's a simple sexual preference. Just state which you like and participate in the subject at hand.

As I mentioned before, farm boys seem to identify scent as natural, since they've been exposed to it as soon as they started slopping hogs. City boys, suburbans and upper-middle and up would, generally speaking, not have the "earthy" experience in their genes.
My mother came from a farm, so I've been smelling animals and gotten used to their smells (most of which do nothing positive for me, but don't make me want to throw up, either). I have yet to meet a guy whose scent (again, IF I LIKE HIS PARTICULAR SCENT) is similar to a hog's. "Clean" as in I-scrubbed-my-skin-until-my-skin-came-off is a fetish in itself: one of fear. And some clean-smelling guys have horrible breath. And sometimes the smell of their "clean" skill is the opposite of erotic: they smell like they're ill or recovering from illness. Scent is scent: some scents, even so-called "body odor", can be erotic, if you haven't brainwashed yourself into automatic response, the kind that makes you jerk your leg away if it accidentally touches a stranger's on a train, and you babble for 5 minutes about "Oh, I'm SO sorry. That was an accident. I hope you're accept my profoundest apology for such an indignity..." blah, blah, blah. I quizzed my straight male friends about it, and they said they notice when another guy smells, but it doesn't really bother them unless it's overpowering. A few said, it reminds them of when they were younger, and guys were more likely to smell than not, especially after being active (which, if you're over 35, means ALL the time. That was before people became hypnotized by 4" screens and Facebook and actually spent their time outside). I was an inner-city kid half the year, a farm boy the other half. Didn't pay much attention to people's smells, so I guess they weren't of the kind that was offensive. When it WAS offensive, MAN did I notice. But I was constantly wrestling guys, and had their feet in my face, my head trapped between their thighs, in their crotch, neck and pits. Never seemed to gross me out.
I still think guys grow up subconsciously trained (which means, they don't even know they've been indoctrinated) to reject any smell that doesn't come out of a Ralph Lauren or Old Spice bottle. Why a manufactured smell (ironically enough, one taken from the glands of a SKUNK, for Chrissakes) is more palatable than a natural scent wafting off a guy, is honestly, and in the final stages. ABSURD. (Do you like the smell of SKUNK? Oh, I see. Just it's derivatives.)
It's all socialized behavior and those who say otherwise? Well, they're just....just....just...AMERICANS. A nutso culture if ever there was one.

First Im allergic to most colognes and other products... I have actually given up friendships over their use... I also hate hugging guys that have cologne on their clothes... I like a man that smells fresh. A good rinse and I can kiss him all over...

okay---NONE of you guys are ever getting into my bed.
There is unscented antiperspirant deodorant. It has a purpose.
As for cologne---spray it in the air, wait a second or two, then walk through it. Never too much.
Why go to such extremes? A guy doesn't have to use stuff that makes him smell like a flower...I don't think anybody ever made that rule. And for the "Irish Spring" guys--hate to tell you, but that's perfume. Irish Spring doesn't smell like that just because---it smells like that because there's perfume in it.
The last guy that got in my bed STANK!! It was enough to make my eyes water.
He didn't stay.
One guy I had over to dinner once out-smelled the food I was putting on the table and he thought it was "sexy".
puh-leeeez...If I wanted to fuck a lump of limburger, I would. Just an aside: Did you know the bacteria used to make limburger is exactly the same bacteria in pit-stink? That was on "Dirty Jobs".
All of this "natural" talk is crap. Humans aren't natural. You want natural, chuck all your cloths, wear skins of animals you kill and squat in the forest.
Me? I have to have ceramic fixtures in a nice bathroom with a big shower and a little Suave unscented antiperspirant deodrant and my spray bottle of Oleg Casini.
And a guy who appreciates the same.
I have a "brother" and he and his husband went for this natural man-stink thing. Bully for them. They also stopped being invited to family dinners and couldn't understand why. When the meatloaf tastes like pit-stink, and even the onions are embarrassed, you can be as natural as you want---out on the patio.

I can't be around the Irish Spring guys. Can't. Can't. I sing in a great community chorus and one of the absolute rules before a dress rehearsal or concert is Do Wear Deoderant. Do Not Wear Cologne. Do NOT use strongly-scented soaps such as Irish Spring. 60 people in close quarters under serious stress need all the fresh air they can get. Any additional scents can cause all sorts of problems from allergic reactions to ordinary distraction. Not good in a performance setting.

I want my men to have armpit hair, but I want them to be clean and fresh. I don't want stink when I lick an armpit any more than I want stink when I rim a man. However, the lack of armpit hair is not a turnoff for me.

I DEFINITELY PREFER MY MAN TO BE NATURAL AND CHEMICAL FREE.IF HE MUST USE A DEODORANT THEN HE CAN ALWAYS USE SALT DEODORANT....ITS JUST NATURAL SALT...I CAN TOLERATE THAT.BUT WHEN A MAN TELLS ME TO LICK HIS PITS....I BETTER NOT BE TASTING CHEMICALS FOR 2 DAYS IN MY MOUTH OR FEELING THE CHEMICALS IN MY MOUTH....ITS JUST NASTY.NOT TO MENTION ITS JUST SIMPLY NOT NATURAL.IF ANY GUYS MUST USE DEODORANT THEN AT LEAST USE ALL NATURAL OR SALT CRYSTALS.

AND I LIKE A MANS NATURAL SCENT AND TASTE.....BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WILL LIKE IT IF THEY HAVEN'T SHOWERED IN 4 DAYS EITHER.ESP. IF THEY'VE BEEN GETTING DIRTY. A DAY OR TWO IS FINE.MORE IS JUST BAD.

I like the scent of a man with a bit of cologne, especially the wood tones such as sandal wood and other barks. I also like the smell of a man who comes in on a warm day -- slightly metallic plus a bit like straw. Does wonderful things for me.

I don't care for someone bathed in cologne. I'm not usually allergic to scents, but overdoing can make me leave the room, the party, the dance floor, the block!

I also like the taste of clean skin and sniffing and licking clean pits, or maybe at the end of warm day, just before a shower.

A lot depends on a man's personal scent. Clean is always good.

i like me that smell like a man that turns me on

I once caught the scent of a guy who just got off work from lawn care. His scent at that time was turning me on! It just depends on the level of the scent. If it's beyond reason, go shower. A shower will only wash away what ever makes it unnatural and unpleasant. Depending on the situation, male fragrances should be used for special occasions or just day to day normal hygiene. But for those times when the natural scent is right and with the right guy, go for it. Then shower together afterwards, that can be fun as well.

Hell to the no!

Butch does not mean stank! Does it make a woman more feminine? Please! Get into it if you wish, but not for me!

What bothers me isn't the fact that some guys are really into it, the problem is guys who are not sincere about stink and merely use it to fit in.

Now once in a rare, rare while, I have smelled a guy who was just intoxicating, but that's Rare with a capital R and most of the time it's the equivalent of VAG or a rank street person - unwashed and unsexy.

I think it has to be on a guy I *already* like too, because we attach familiarity markers to people we are interested in. Otherwise, you could just run into some guy who you're not remotely attracted to and his "stink" is somehow supposed to magically make you hard for him. If that worked, somebody would have bottled it by now and sold it next to Fleshlights and poppers.

But when it becomes this "butch" culture or "leather community" behavior requirement you're *supposed* to be into, then it's complete bullshit as are all "macho" rules. (same with alcohol, etc)

Please don't start in on "this is what's wrong with today's men, no old school leather structure". You need to know your OWN identity as a man before you enter a world where men "perform" as men.

Don't need cologne. DO need clean. If you stink, that's not man-scent, that's BO. If one is into raunch, fine, but if you come to me with more than a mild odor, I'm throwing your ass into the shower.

While we're talking about it, it is NOT your right to stink, to be rank and raunchy in public, whether it's a leather bar or not. Why? Because your BO doesn't stay with you, so you're imposing that Choice on us all, same as smoking. Your right to stink OR smoke stops at my nose.

RANK - RIPE PITTS . . . . . A SURE FIRED WAY TO GET MY DICK HARD AND DRIPPING

Like fresh showered scent free no deodorant, other wise I prefer a man with antiperspirant and a nice light clean smelling cologne.

Say no to B.O!

there is a certain amount of stench which comes from the scent of man which is surprisingly nice and which gets me a little turned on. then there is bad stench which i cant stand. not using deodorant is unsanitary. but there is that stench which i really like